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OK, so I Took my sugar one hour after I ate... and its 237.. Well, I guess I AM diabetic. I guess I either change my entire life or die... what a a wake up call!!!! I know I need to accept this like everybody does, but I am new to it, and just want to vent a little anger, at no one in particular, but this is the best way I can figure to deal with it, soplease noone take offense to me, I mean none to anyone. This indeed is scary to me, and VERY UPSETTING! Diabetes doesn't even really run inmy family, but I guess it doesn't matter. I always thought, immaturely so, that if I ever got diabetes then I would die, because there was no way I was changingmy lifestyle. So I guess the time is coming for me to make a decision, live or die. This Sucks! I have to go to the doctor this weekend, but I KNOW what he is gonna say, cause there ain't NO REASON why my bg should be OVER 200, if I am not diabetic. NO WAY! I know i am sounding like a big baby, but here is my story in a nutshell. The ONLY reason I am detecting this now is because of my wife. I took my blood glucose level when she was first diagnosed, just to prove to her that it didn;'t hurt that bad. and it was high then, not real high but high enough. I discovered this by accident. I guess ina way I am kinda lucky though, because many people don't find out til much later, once the damage is being done. So maybe instead of being angry I should be thankful. But somehow it is making me angry, and I apologize to those here. Anger is about the only way I can express my fears I guess, I dunno. My wife is saying its no big deal, trying to calm me down, but I can't help it. It is upsetting to me. VERY UPSETTING! I know many of you have been managing your diabetes for years and you have my respect. I JUST never thought *I* would get it! Am I acting a little childish, maybe! But right now its the only emotion I have! Sorry for taking up space for such a stupid post, but I feel a little better having vented some!
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This post not CC'd by email On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 05:56:55 GMT, "BigToe906" <BigToe906~hotmail.com wrote: OK, so I Took my sugar one hour after I ate... and its 237.. Well, I guess I AM diabetic. I guess I either change my entire life or die... what a a wake up call!!!! I know I need to accept this like everybody does, but I am new to it, and just want to vent a little anger, at no one in particular, but this is the best way I can figure to deal with it, soplease noone take offense to me, I mean none to anyone. This indeed is scary to me, and VERY UPSETTING! Diabetes doesn't even really run inmy family, but I guess it doesn't matter. G'day G'day, It sure would piss one off. Guess what that is a healthy sign. In what seems rather like a past life I used to teach adults. Some of them were angry on occasions and some didn't give a stuff. My observation was that the one's who were angry SOMETIMES were more likely to succeed than those who were ALWAYS angry or NEVER angry. I always thought, immaturely so, that if I ever got diabetes then I would die, because there was no way I was changingmy lifestyle. You could change your mind. People who become paraplegics playing body contact sports OFTEN recall how adamant they were that if it ever happened to them they would rather die and then being surprised to find in the actual event they would much rather live. So I guess the time is coming for me to make a decision, live or die. This Sucks! Not really. You get a choice unlike the victims of car bombs. My hunch is you are angry at arriving in this situation. It seems so unfair but hey you are already majorly on the way to accepting the situation and dealing with it energetically. Anger to determination is a small step. I have to go to the doctor this weekend, but I KNOW what he is gonna say, cause there ain't NO REASON why my bg should be OVER 200, if I am not diabetic. NO WAY! Darn. We don't even get to rattle you out of a cocoon of denial. I know i am sounding like a big baby, but here is my story in a nutshell. The ONLY reason I am detecting this now is because of my wife. I took my blood glucose level when she was first diagnosed, just to prove to her that it didn;'t hurt that bad. Sorry my apologies for laughing. Life is a bitch. and it was high then, not real high but high enough. I discovered this by accident. I guess ina way I am kinda lucky though, because many people don't find out til much later, once the damage is being done. So maybe instead of being angry I should be thankful. But somehow it is making me angry, and I apologize to those here. Anger is about the only way I can express my fears I guess, I dunno. My wife is saying its no big deal, trying to calm me down, but I can't help it. It is upsetting to me. VERY UPSETTING! You know what, "I think she is a tincey bit wrong." Hey, it is understandable that she would want you to calm down. It is scary being around people who are upset. Better you be upset and angry. Anger is an emotion with high energy and needs careful handling. You aren't angry at her ... just the news. Harness that energy and focus it into making some kick ass changes in your diet and you are a winner. Believe me it is win-win situation. It is patently clear from a zillion miles away that she loves you to bits and doesn't want any harm to come to you. My guess is you will BOTH improve your blood glucose control and become healthier with jointly focused determination. I know many of you have been managing your diabetes for years and you have my respect. I JUST never thought *I* would get it! Am I acting a little childish, maybe! But right now its the only emotion I have! Not today. Sorry for taking up space for such a stupid post, but I feel a little better having vented some! There is a saying that the only stupid question is one people are too frightened to ask because people might think they are stupid. What would have been stupid, IMHO would be bottling it all up till something happened to distract you so that you weren't up nd in the face of the problem. Give the problem heaps ... it is a great starting place. Of course be kind to the people. Best wishes, -- Quentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, #,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin
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"BigToe906" <BigToe906~hotmail.com wrote in message news:HYGYa.11027$jg.3338029~news1.news.adelphia.net... OK, so I Took my sugar one hour after I ate... and its 237.. Well, I guess I AM diabetic. I guess I either change my entire life or die... what a a wake up call!!!! I know I need to accept this like everybody does, but I am new to it, and just want to vent a little anger, at no one in particular, but this is the best way I can figure to deal with it, soplease noone take offense to me, I mean none to anyone. This indeed is scary to me, and VERY UPSETTING! Diabetes doesn't even really run inmy family, but I guess it doesn't matter. I always thought, immaturely so, that if I ever got diabetes then I would die, because there was no way I was changingmy lifestyle. So I guess the time is coming for me to make a decision, live or die. This Sucks! I have to go to the doctor this weekend, but I KNOW what he is gonna say, cause there ain't NO REASON why my bg should be OVER 200, if I am not diabetic. NO WAY! I know i am sounding like a big baby, but here is my story in a nutshell. The ONLY reason I am detecting this now is because of my wife. I took my blood glucose level when she was first diagnosed, just to prove to her that it didn;'t hurt that bad. and it was high then, not real high but high enough. I discovered this by accident. I guess ina way I am kinda lucky though, because many people don't find out til much later, once the damage is being done. So maybe instead of being angry I should be thankful. But somehow it is making me angry, and I apologize to those here. Anger is about the only way I can express my fears I guess, I dunno. My wife is saying its no big deal, trying to calm me down, but I can't help it. It is upsetting to me. VERY UPSETTING! I know many of you have been managing your diabetes for years and you have my respect. I JUST never thought *I* would get it! Am I acting a little childish, maybe! But right now its the only emotion I have! Sorry for taking up space for such a stupid post, but I feel a little better having vented some! Hi there, I just want to welcome you to the group, and let you know we understand how you are feeling. We've all been there - hey sometimes I still get angry! It's like someone, somewhere, has played a dirty trick on me. Yet there is no-one to blame, no one to punch out. Besides, it can be pointless even if there are some people or things that may have contributed. A waste of energy that can be focussed in much more productive ways. I respect your feelings, they are NOT childish or abnormal. You've found yourself suffering harm, and are suffering a perfectly normal reaction. There is built-in wiring that reacts to perceived harm or danger by becoming frightened (the "flee" instinct), or anger (the "fight" response). Some people handle this by going into DENIAL, tell themselves that it isn't real, and then do nothing to deal with the reality. Others (and I suspect you are one of them), use the thing that has served us well in our evolution, (our reasoning ablitity), and use their intelligence to DO something to improve their chances of survival. So I reckon you should accept how you feel, and use it as part of the energy to motivate the changes that will be necessary to enhance your survival and lengthen your life. Because there IS something to fight, and fight for - with an excellent chance to suceed. There are things you can do for improving your health, and not only live longer, but with more enjoyment. Sure there are no guarantees, but hey, nothing in life is certain. You can certainly improve from where you are now, that's for sure. So gird up your loins, and get determined to beat this thing, whatever it takes. You can do it! Annette "We have seen the enemy, and he is us." Pogo (Walt Kelly) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release Date: 1/08/03
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 05:56:55 GMT, "BigToe906" <BigToe906~hotmail.com wrote: OK, so I Took my sugar one hour after I ate... and its 237.. Well, I guess I AM diabetic. I guess I either change my entire life or die... what a a wake up call!!!! I know I need to accept this like everybody does, but I am new to it, and just want to vent a little anger, at no one in particular, but this is the best way I can figure to deal with it, soplease noone take offense to me, I mean none to anyone. This indeed is scary to me, and VERY UPSETTING! Diabetes doesn't even really run inmy family, but I guess it doesn't matter. I always thought, immaturely so, that if I ever got diabetes then I would die, because there was no way I was changingmy lifestyle. So I guess the time is coming for me to make a decision, live or die. This Sucks! I have to go to the doctor this weekend, but I KNOW what he is gonna say, cause there ain't NO REASON why my bg should be OVER 200, if I am not diabetic. NO WAY! I know i am sounding like a big baby, but here is my story in a nutshell. The ONLY reason I am detecting this now is because of my wife. I took my blood glucose level when she was first diagnosed, just to prove to her that it didn;'t hurt that bad. and it was high then, not real high but high enough. I discovered this by accident. I guess ina way I am kinda lucky though, because many people don't find out til much later, once the damage is being done. So maybe instead of being angry I should be thankful. But somehow it is making me angry, and I apologize to those here. Anger is about the only way I can express my fears I guess, I dunno. My wife is saying its no big deal, trying to calm me down, but I can't help it. It is upsetting to me. VERY UPSETTING! I know many of you have been managing your diabetes for years and you have my respect. I JUST never thought *I* would get it! Am I acting a little childish, maybe! But right now its the only emotion I have! Sorry for taking up space for such a stupid post, but I feel a little better having vented some! No, you are just human like the rest of us. Diabetes is a scary mother since it is a killer if left unchecked. After awhile, it just becomes a part of life. Testing and dropping carbs become secondary and a daily function of life. Do what you can - drop the weight and drop the carbs. Since your wife is also diabetic, you have prior experience and some built in support. You will find that social functions are the most difficult to handle. Everybody is pigging out on cakes, ice cream, pies, pasta, etc. And you will probably be eating green salads, free foods, or you will be eating very small portions of normal everyday foods. Your eating patterns will stand out profoundly. Having diabetes does change your life. See Sig for Free software I author and distribute for recording BG's. _____________________________________________ http://www.tcainternet.com/retired/index.html
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"BigToe906" <BigToe906~hotmail.com wrote in message news:HYGYa.11027$jg.3338029~news1.news.adelphia.net... OK, so I Took my sugar one hour after I ate... and its 237.. Well, I guess I AM diabetic. I guess I either change my entire life or die... what a a wake up call!!!! I know I need to accept this like everybody does, but I am new to it, and just want to vent a little anger, at no one in particular, but this is the best way I can figure to deal with it, soplease noone take offense to me, I mean none to anyone. This indeed is scary to me, and VERY UPSETTING! Diabetes doesn't even really run inmy family, but I guess it doesn't matter. I always thought, immaturely so, that if I ever got diabetes then I would die, because there was no way I was changingmy lifestyle. So I guess the time is coming for me to make a decision, live or die. This Sucks! I have to go to the doctor this weekend, but I KNOW what he is gonna say, cause there ain't NO REASON why my bg should be OVER 200, if I am not diabetic. NO WAY! I know i am sounding like a big baby, but here is my story in a nutshell. The ONLY reason I am detecting this now is because of my wife. I took my blood glucose level when she was first diagnosed, just to prove to her that it didn;'t hurt that bad. and it was high then, not real high but high enough. I discovered this by accident. I guess ina way I am kinda lucky though, because many people don't find out til much later, once the damage is being done. So maybe instead of being angry I should be thankful. But somehow it is making me angry, and I apologize to those here. Anger is about the only way I can express my fears I guess, I dunno. My wife is saying its no big deal, trying to calm me down, but I can't help it. It is upsetting to me. VERY UPSETTING! I know many of you have been managing your diabetes for years and you have my respect. I JUST never thought *I* would get it! Am I acting a little childish, maybe! But right now its the only emotion I have! Sorry for taking up space for such a stupid post, but I feel a little better having vented some! Welcome. Finding out you have diabetes can be a shock. It can create a strong sense of grief. That grief has stages. One of the stages is anger. The others are denial, depression, bargaining, and acceptance. You denied that you could have diabetes, found out you did. You are angry and that is another stage. It's normal and it's human. Yes, you will have to make some major changes in your life. Big ones. Forever. The good thing is you will become healthier, look better, and probably feel better than you have in years. It's hard changing lifetime patterns of eating and living. After all, you know how to do those things really well because you've done them all along. Now you are entering a new experience. You get the opportunity, yes OPPORTUNITY, to learn about new ways of eating, new ways of exercising, new ways of thinking. Right now you are angry. Allow yourself to be. Getting the diagnosis of diabetes can be a real kick in the face. Use the anger to prompt change. Use the energy to learn how to make the necessary changes. Keep posting and keep learning. It gets easier with time. In fact, it actually starts to feel good! c
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I will say it once again.... Mem had the corner on anger and feeling deprived and then depraved!!!! It gets better. Yes, still have some days but are fewer and don't last as long. My energy level is unbelievable and my self-esteem has increased. I look better than I have for years!!!! You will get through this phase, may revisit it once and a while but hey, "BIG TOE" you will probably get to KEEP those big toes!!!!! You really haven't a choice in this matter especially if you like the way your "bigtoes" look in sandals... :) Keep lurking and posting to this group. There are wonderfully caring and wise people here. We all just love to support the newbies though thick and thin..... :) Memory
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In article <HYGYa.11027$jg.3338029~news1.news.adelphia.net, BigToe906~hotmail.com says... OK, so I Took my sugar one hour after I ate... and its 237.. Well, I guess I AM diabetic. Most probably. My sympathies. I guess I either change my entire life or die... (nods) That's the bottom line. what a a wake up call!!!! I know I need to accept this like everybody does, but I am new to it, and just want to vent a little anger, at no one in particular, but this is the best way I can figure to deal with it, soplease noone take offense to me, I mean none to anyone. This indeed is scary to me, and VERY UPSETTING! Diabetes doesn't even really run inmy family, but I guess it doesn't matter. Not really. Although it might have been better if you DID have a family history of diabetes. I do, and the question for me was not "Will I get diabetes?" but rather "HOW LONG can I go before I get diabetes?" Not long enough, it seems... I always thought, immaturely so, that if I ever got diabetes then I would die, because there was no way I was changingmy lifestyle. So I guess the time is coming for me to make a decision, live or die. Actually it's even easier. It's "live, or die slow and painfully" Uncontrolled diabetes is NOT a pleasant thing. This Sucks! Can't argue with that. I have to go to the doctor this weekend, but I KNOW what he is gonna say, cause there ain't NO REASON why my bg should be OVER 200, if I am not diabetic. NO WAY! Indeed, indeed. I know i am sounding like a big baby, but here is my story in a nutshell. The ONLY reason I am detecting this now is because of my wife. I took my blood glucose level when she was first diagnosed, just to prove to her that it didn;'t hurt that bad. and it was high then, not real high but high enough. I discovered this by accident. I guess ina way I am kinda lucky though, because many people don't find out til much later, once the damage is being done. So maybe instead of being angry I should be thankful. But somehow it is making me angry, and I apologize to those here. Anger is about the only way I can express my fears I guess, I dunno. My wife is saying its no big deal, trying to calm me down, but I can't help it. It is upsetting to me. VERY UPSETTING! True, true. Especially if it completely blindsided you. Anger, upset, drop kicking the cat, all these are normal reactions. Cut loose and let it out. I know many of you have been managing your diabetes for years and you have my respect. I JUST never thought *I* would get it! Am I acting a little childish, maybe! But right now its the only emotion I have! Sorry for taking up space for such a stupid post, but I feel a little better having vented some! Glad to hear it! Vent more, if you wish. And then use that anger to start working on getting control. The best vengence on diabetes is keeping on top of it and staying healthy DESPITE it. Kick its butt. ^_^ FW
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Of course, this is upsetting, How normal would it be to say goody goody gumdrops I have diabetes, You think your whole life is going to change, It is going to be different for sure,. testing watching carbs, meds etc. but that doesnt mean you will have to be deprived of everything you like, Your meter will be able to figure that out, I am sorry your wife has diabetes but you have a little headstart, You live with someone who is dealing with it everyday and she can help navigate you along the journey. When push comes to shove, nobody is going to choose dying over lifestyle changes, I am diabetic and yet I have never been healthier in my life, I am able to portion control so therefore I dont feel deprived, a little of this and a little of that works for me but of course, not all at one time. Once you get over the denial and then the anger, you will reach a place called acceptance. This will become part of your life, you will , if you choose manage it, and you can and should live a full life. Good luck, Stay with us and learn and get support, We are here as a great defense as is Nancy your number one supporter. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.
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"BigToe906" <BigToe906~hotmail.com wrote in message news:HYGYa.11027$jg.3338029~news1.news.adelphia.net... OK, so I Took my sugar one hour after I ate... and its 237.. Well, I guess I AM diabetic. I guess I either change my entire life or die... what a a wake up call!!!! I know I need to accept this like everybody does, but I am new to it, and just want to vent a little anger, at no one in particular, but this is the best way I can figure to deal with it, soplease noone take offense to me, I mean none to anyone. This indeed is scary to me, and VERY UPSETTING! Diabetes doesn't even really run inmy family, but I guess it doesn't matter. Your feelings are perfectly normal. In the beginning, I think most of us feel a sense of denial. We want to think of some sort of mistake that might have happened. Or we really hope that it isn't true. We also feel panicked even though we might have some inkling of what we need to do to bring this thing into control. I always thought, immaturely so, that if I ever got diabetes then I would die, because there was no way I was changingmy lifestyle. So I guess the time is coming for me to make a decision, live or die. It isn't quite that simple. You don't die of diabetes overnight. Alas, the complications come on slowly and keep coming on. I'm talking about Neuropathy, loss of eyesight, loss of limbs, kidney failure, heart attack, etc. I'm sure you don't want that! This Sucks! I have to go to the doctor this weekend, but I KNOW what he is gonna say, cause there ain't NO REASON why my bg should be OVER 200, if I am not diabetic. NO WAY! Yes, true. One exception being a person who has been taking certain steroids. If so, that can cause a form of diabetes that sometimes goes away when the drug is stopped. I know i am sounding like a big baby, but here is my story in a nutshell. The ONLY reason I am detecting this now is because of my wife. I took my blood glucose level when she was first diagnosed, just to prove to her that it didn;'t hurt that bad. and it was high then, not real high but high enough. I discovered this by accident. I guess ina way I am kinda lucky though, because many people don't find out til much later, once the damage is being done. Very true! You may have caught it before much damage has occurred. So maybe instead of being angry I should be thankful. But somehow it is making me angry, and I apologize to those here. Anger is about the only way I can express my fears I guess, I dunno. My wife is saying its no big deal, trying to calm me down, but I can't help it. It is upsetting to me. VERY UPSETTING! Of course it's very upsetting! I'm sure your wife was upset too when she was first diagnosed. She may have forgetten. I know many of you have been managing your diabetes for years and you have my respect. I JUST never thought *I* would get it! Am I acting a little childish, maybe! But right now its the only emotion I have! Sorry for taking up space for such a stupid post, but I feel a little better having vented some! I know exactly how you feel. And hopefully for you, you'll come to terms with it soon and get on with doing what you need to do to control it. Just take it one day at a time. You didn't get this disease overnight and you're not going to get it under control overnight. At least with your wife being diabetic, you probably know more about it than many of the rest of us here did when we were diagnosed. And stick around! This is a great place to be! The newsgroup I mean... -- Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
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Big Toe, It STINKS being diabetic. After 20 years as a T1, I still get angry. I've have thrown a syringe (with the cap on, of course) across a room, and have wanted to throw my glucometer across the room as well. (I haven't-too expensive to destroy in a temper tantrum!) Everyone vents, I still do on occasion. You're probably wrong about having to change your entire life. Unless you eat nothing other than sugar and simple carbs, you will simply need to modify a few things, and perhaps take some medications. I know nothing about what type of shape you are in, so you may or may not need to drop some weight. If you don't already do so, you will also need to work exercise into your daily routine. Of course living with and controlling diabetes is more complicated than that, but I suggest that you try not to take in too much new information too quickly. In other words, drink your water from a garden hose rather than a fire hose! Too much information too quickly will overwhelm you. Learn something new about living with it everyday, experiment with various methods, CHECK YOUR SUGARS OFTEN and use that information to made modifications, throw a tantrum here and there, and deal with it. I also suggest that you lean on your support systems...your wife, this group, and check with your dr about a local support group. Good luck on your journey. It's not all bad. Steph "BigToe906" <BigToe906~hotmail.com wrote in message news:HYGYa.11027$jg.3338029~news1.news.adelphia.net... OK, so I Took my sugar one hour after I ate... and its 237.. Well, I guess I AM diabetic. I guess I either change my entire life or die... what a a wake up call!!!! I know I need to accept this like everybody does, but I am new to it, and just want to vent a little anger, at no one in particular, but this is the best way I can figure to deal with it, soplease noone take offense to me, I mean none to anyone. This indeed is scary to me, and VERY UPSETTING! Diabetes doesn't even really run inmy family, but I guess it doesn't matter. I always thought, immaturely so, that if I ever got diabetes then I would die, because there was no way I was changingmy lifestyle. So I guess the time is coming for me to make a decision, live or die. This Sucks! I have to go to the doctor this weekend, but I KNOW what he is gonna say, cause there ain't NO REASON why my bg should be OVER 200, if I am not diabetic. NO WAY! I know i am sounding like a big baby, but here is my story in a nutshell. The ONLY reason I am detecting this now is because of my wife. I took my blood glucose level when she was first diagnosed, just to prove to her that it didn;'t hurt that bad. and it was high then, not real high but high enough. I discovered this by accident. I guess ina way I am kinda lucky though, because many people don't find out til much later, once the damage is being done. So maybe instead of being angry I should be thankful. But somehow it is making me angry, and I apologize to those here. Anger is about the only way I can express my fears I guess, I dunno. My wife is saying its no big deal, trying to calm me down, but I can't help it. It is upsetting to me. VERY UPSETTING! I know many of you have been managing your diabetes for years and you have my respect. I JUST never thought *I* would get it! Am I acting a little childish, maybe! But right now its the only emotion I have! Sorry for taking up space for such a stupid post, but I feel a little better having vented some!
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I'm sorry. Take time to absorb it, get a plan, and start to take control. It takes time to do that, different emotions etc., but the alternative is just not acceptable. I wish you the best, and with your wife on your team and knowing what you're going through hopefully you get a handle on it faster. -- Cheri BigToe906 wrote in message ... OK, so I Took my sugar one hour after I ate... and its 237.. Well, I guess I AM diabetic. I guess I either change my entire life or die... what a a wake
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BigToe906 wrote: OK,..... Your reactions are quite typical but you are already off on the right track. Welcome to the club. Hopefully you are Type II -- if so, you might be able to manage with diet and exercise alone -- no medications. I have been lucky that way. Wait and see what the doctor says. Also read and learn. You might also consider ASDLC (alt.support.diet.low-carb) where a lot of Type II's hang out. Cheers! Irv -- -------------------------------------- Diagnosed Type II Diabetes March 5 2001 Beating it with diet and exercise! 297/215/210 (to be revised lower) 58"/43"(!)/44" (already lower too!) -------------------------------------- Visit my HomePage at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv/ Visit my very special website at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv4/ Visit my CFSRS/CFIOG ONLINE OLDTIMERS website at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv5/ -------------------- Irv Finkleman, Grampa/Ex-Navy/Old Fart/Ham Radio VE6BP Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Hello BigToe: your feelings are normal. would you like to see what i was feeling when i was first dx'd - lol i think it may contain some questionable language - but its from my heart. i think the date for this was January 30. besides my fighting in here - read some of my other posts when i speak about how much better i am feeling and how much my life has changed for the BETTER!! There are many rewards i have experienced since i became healthier. lol some i will never tell :). Diary of a Diabetic Day 1 Even though I have had Diabetes for a few weeks now I am calling this day one. Reason being. I went to the doctor on Jan 23 complaining that I am peeing a lot. And always thirsty was told it looks like Diabetes take these pills and see me on the 28th. INTRO I am 38 years old. I was some what of a body builder on and off Up until 10 years ago, when I went into a small depression.. I have drunk liquor 1 or 2 times a year during the last 10 years. 10 years ago I was 213 pounds ( my last weigh in ) with a 36 inch waist 2 weeks ago I was 320 with a 50 inch waist.. I am not 295 pounds, with a new hole in my belt. That was from urinating a lot hay I didn't say pissing. Day 1 Went to doctor with my wife. Nurse poked my finger and told me my sugar Was 300 ( from what I remember) and the doctor told me here take more Of these pills Avandia Rosiglitazone maleate tablets.. 1 tablet in the morning and one tab in the evening Before meals The Glucophage XR 1000 1 tablet 2 times a day in the morning and evening.. after meals After the doctor went to get some food.. 1 Pouched egg with 2 slices wheat bread ½ grapefruit and a glass of skim milk. Had to go to the dentist to do some finish my teeth cleaning that I started before I found out I had Diabetes. Told him I had Diabetes and he said that's why my gums are Not healing fast and that I have to come to him every 6 months for a cleaning. Came back home. Did some work have to pay bills after all. Getting ready to eat lunch and my wife is not around. hmmmmm Looked in the freezer and seen the tomato sauce I made before I found out I had Diabetes. Cooked with meat and all the other goodies in a good home made Italian sauce. Put one container in the microwave and nuked it.a lil graded cheese.. That shit was good.. drank the sauce down like a drugy taken drugs. Got up grabed a second container of sauce nuked it.. ate the meat and just left the Sauce alone. Felt bad after. Did some more work.. Picked the wife up went shopping Came home and just layed down at 7pm depressed. Wife made me tuna salad a monster Salad at that.. afraid she would see my eyes watery I only ate the tuna and some red peppers, went to bed and tried to have a silent cry. Soon after she laid down with me. We tried looking at the briter side of things making jokes.. I told her soon I will not be able pound her Like chop meat much longer (maybe) - (update August 8, 2002 by controling my BS shes still my burger i never mention this before but i was unable to get an erection for almost a year before if not longer -BUT IM BACK) And she said Tom um CheeseBurger don't worry Im in menopause. Shes 13 years older then I am I said maybe we should open a business called Soft and dry lol. Held hands and went to sleep. I wanted to try to do her. But was afraid I Wouldn't be able to. (update - i knew i wouldnt be able to) We both went to sleep. Questions I am asking myself and trying to find out. Even though the doctor gave me a 1800 calorie diet I really do not understand how much I should eat of what. He said I am also high on cholesterol. So I am watching that. Didn't really start my exercise yet but cleaned the house pretty good Maybe will start the stepper tomorrow. for 15 minutes 1 hour after Breakfast. Or lunch but then if working out how does that effect my eating Well I think that's it. until tomorrow. UPDATE - Diabetes has given me the motivation to succeed when in the past i failed. yes many people trying to lose weight fail - its a fight that i am winning so far. the key is knowledge and will power. i only wish you can see how my life has changed so far for the better. i still eat everything i want - well something i just dont want to eat anymore. but i eat just like any normal healthy person eats lol most of the time. i try to eat 5 small meals a day - following the diet my dietitan gave me. lol most of the time. CheeseBurger -- http://www.diabetes.org Shadow-Spirit 39 - Male - Type - 2 Dx'd January 27, 2003 330lbs now 264 A1C = 5.1 July 15 "BigToe906" <BigToe906~hotmail.com wrote in message news:HYGYa.11027$jg.3338029~news1.news.adelphia.net... : OK, so I Took my sugar one hour after I ate... and its 237.. : Well, I guess I AM diabetic. I guess I either change my : entire life or die... what a a wake up call!!!! I know I : need to accept this like everybody does, but I am new to it, : and just want to vent a little anger, at no one in : particular, but this is the best way I can figure to deal : with it, soplease noone take offense to me, I mean none to : anyone. This indeed is scary to me, and VERY UPSETTING! : Diabetes doesn't even really run inmy family, but I guess it : doesn't matter. I always thought, immaturely so, that if I : ever got diabetes then I would die, because there was no way : I was changingmy lifestyle. So I guess the time is coming : for me to make a decision, live or die. This Sucks! I have : to go to the doctor this weekend, but I KNOW what he is : gonna say, cause there ain't NO REASON why my bg should be : OVER 200, if I am not diabetic. NO WAY! I know i am sounding : like a big baby, but here is my story in a nutshell. The : ONLY reason I am detecting this now is because of my wife. I : took my blood glucose level when she was first diagnosed, : just to prove to her that it didn;'t hurt that bad. and it : was high then, not real high but high enough. I discovered : this by accident. I guess ina way I am kinda lucky though, : because many people don't find out til much later, once the : damage is being done. So maybe instead of being angry I : should be thankful. But somehow it is making me angry, and I : apologize to those here. Anger is about the only way I can : express my fears I guess, I dunno. My wife is saying its no : big deal, trying to calm me down, but I can't help it. It is : upsetting to : me. VERY UPSETTING! I know many of you have been managing : your diabetes for years and you have my respect. I JUST : never thought *I* would get it! Am I acting a little : childish, maybe! But right now its the only emotion I : have! Sorry for taking up space for such a stupid post, : but I feel a little better having vented some! : : : : :
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BigToe906 wrote: OK, so I Took my sugar one hour after I ate... and its 237.. Well, I guess I AM diabetic. What a coincidence! So are all of us! ; ) And we don't intend to die any time soon. You CAN have a long healthy diabetic life, and while yes, it does mean changes, it doesn't mean your life is over. Here's the advice I give all newbies: There is so much to absorb... you don't have to rush into anything. Begin by using your best weapon in this war, your meter. You won't keel over today, you have time to experiment, test, learn, test and figure out just how your body and this disease are getting along. The most important thing you can do to learn about yourself and diabetes is test test test. The single biggest question a diabetic has to answer is: What do I eat? Unfortunately, the answer is pretty confusing. What confounds us all is the fact that different diabetics can get great results on wildly different food plans. Some of us here achieve great blood glucose control eating a high complex carbohydrate diet. Others find that anything over 75 - 100g of carbs a day is too much. Still others are somewhere in between. At the beginning all of us felt frustrated. We wanted to be handed THE way to eat, to ensure our continued health. But we all learned that there is no one way. Each of us had to find our own path, using the experience of those that went before, but still having to discover for ourselves how OUR bodies and this disease were coexisting. Ask questions, but remember each of us discovered on our own what works best for us. You can use our experiences as jumping off points, but eventually you'll work up a successful plan that is yours alone. What you are looking to discover is how different foods affect you. As I'm sure you've read, carbohydrates (sugars, wheat, rice... the things our Grandmas called "starches") raise blood sugars the most rapidly. Protein and fat do raise them, but not as high and much more slowly... so if you're a T2, generally the insulin your body still makes may take care of the rise. You might want to try some experiments. First: Eat whatever you've been currently eating... but write it all down. Test yourself at the following times: Upon waking (fasting) 1 hour after each meal 2 hours after each meal At bedtime That means 8 x each day. What you will discover by this is how long after a meal your highest reading comes... and how fast you return to "normal". Also, you may see that a meal that included bread, fruit or other carbs gives you a higher reading. Then for the next few days, try to curb your carbs. Eliminate breads, cereals, rices, beans, any wheat products, potato, corn, fruit... get all your carbs from veggies. Test at the same schedule above. If you try this for a few days, you may find some pretty damn good readings. It's worth a few days to discover. Eventually you can slowly add back carbs until you see them affecting your meter. The thing about this disease... though we share much in common and we need to follow certain guidelines... in the end, each of our bodies dictate our treatment and our success. The closer we get to non-diabetic numbers, the greater chance we have of avoiding horrible complications. The key here is AIM... I know that everyone is at a different point in their disease... and it is progressive. But, if we aim for the best numbers and do our best, we give ourselves the best shot at heath we've got. That's all we can do. Here's my opinion on what numbers to aim for, they are non-diabetic numbers. FBG under 110 One hour after meals under 140 Two hours after meals under 120 or for those in the mmol parts of the world: Fasting Under 6 One hour after meals Under 8 Two hours after meals Under 6.5 Recent studies have indicated that the most important numbers are your "after meal" numbers. They may be the most indicative of future complications, especially heart problems. Listen to your doctor, but you are the leader of your diabetic care team. While his /her advice is learned, it is not absolute. You will end up knowing much more about your body and how it's handling diabetes than your doctor will. Your meter is your best weapon. Just remember, we're not in a race or a competition with anyone but ourselves... Play around with your food plan... TEST TEST TEST. Learn what foods cause spikes, what foods cause cravings... Use your body as a science experiment. You'll read about a lot of different ways people use to control their diabetes... Many are diametrically opposed. After awhile you'll learn that there is no one size fits all around here. Take some time to experiment and you'll soon discover the plan that works for you. Best of luck! Jennifer I guess I either change my entire life or die... what a a wake up call!!!! I know I need to accept this like everybody does, but I am new to it, and just want to vent a little anger, at no one in particular, but this is the best way I can figure to deal with it, soplease noone take offense to me, I mean none to anyone. This indeed is scary to me, and VERY UPSETTING! Diabetes doesn't even really run inmy family, but I guess it doesn't matter. I always thought, immaturely so, that if I ever got diabetes then I would die, because there was no way I was changingmy lifestyle. So I guess the time is coming for me to make a decision, live or die. This Sucks! I have to go to the doctor this weekend, but I KNOW what he is gonna say, cause there ain't NO REASON why my bg should be OVER 200, if I am not diabetic. NO WAY! I know i am sounding like a big baby, but here is my story in a nutshell. The ONLY reason I am detecting this now is because of my wife. I took my blood glucose level when she was first diagnosed, just to prove to her that it didn;'t hurt that bad. and it was high then, not real high but high enough. I discovered this by accident. I guess ina way I am kinda lucky though, because many people don't find out til much later, once the damage is being done. So maybe instead of being angry I should be thankful. But somehow it is making me angry, and I apologize to those here. Anger is about the only way I can express my fears I guess, I dunno. My wife is saying its no big deal, trying to calm me down, but I can't help it. It is upsetting to me. VERY UPSETTING! I know many of you have been managing your diabetes for years and you have my respect. I JUST never thought *I* would get it! Am I acting a little childish, maybe! But right now its the only emotion I have! Sorry for taking up space for such a stupid post, but I feel a little better having vented some!
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Hey, that sounds like me when I was first diagnosed with Type 2. I was depressed, then pissed off, then really scared. Both my grandmothers died from complications from diabetes. All I could think was that I was going to go blind, have some of my extremities amputated, and die long before I wanted to. That is the way it goes for all diabetics, right? Wrong! Give yourself a little bit of time to become rational again. The visit to your doctor is the first step. Keep in mind that there are very old diabetics out there who are in perfect health. Start educating yourself on diabetes, biology, and diet. You will find there are quite a few differing opinions on diabetes, medication, and diet. Your should doctor be your prime source of information right now. Other references on diet are: The Schwarzbein Principle Bernstein The Zone Atkins Sugar Busters ADA They don't all agree. Neither does the advice here in this newsgroup. Bob "BigToe906" <BigToe906~hotmail.com wrote in message news:HYGYa.11027$jg.3338029~news1.news.adelphia.net... OK, so I Took my sugar one hour after I ate... and its 237.. Well, I guess I AM diabetic. I guess I either change my entire life or die... what a a wake up call!!!! I know I need to accept this like everybody does, but I am new to it, and just want to vent a little anger, at no one in particular, but this is the best way I can figure to deal with it, soplease noone take offense to me, I mean none to anyone. This indeed is scary to me, and VERY UPSETTING! Diabetes doesn't even really run inmy family, but I guess it doesn't matter. I always thought, immaturely so, that if I ever got diabetes then I would die, because there was no way I was changingmy lifestyle. So I guess the time is coming for me to make a decision, live or die. This Sucks! I have to go to the doctor this weekend, but I KNOW what he is gonna say, cause there ain't NO REASON why my bg should be OVER 200, if I am not diabetic. NO WAY! I know i am sounding like a big baby, but here is my story in a nutshell. The ONLY reason I am detecting this now is because of my wife. I took my blood glucose level when she was first diagnosed, just to prove to her that it didn;'t hurt that bad. and it was high then, not real high but high enough. I discovered this by accident. I guess ina way I am kinda lucky though, because many people don't find out til much later, once the damage is being done. So maybe instead of being angry I should be thankful. But somehow it is making me angry, and I apologize to those here. Anger is about the only way I can express my fears I guess, I dunno. My wife is saying its no big deal, trying to calm me down, but I can't help it. It is upsetting to me. VERY UPSETTING! I know many of you have been managing your diabetes for years and you have my respect. I JUST never thought *I* would get it! Am I acting a little childish, maybe! But right now its the only emotion I have! Sorry for taking up space for such a stupid post, but I feel a little better having vented some!